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Welcome. Welcome, Eric. There he is. Welcome Eric Allen, to our show today.
OVERCOMING and Leaving a Legacy! Thank you so much for me. It’s such an honor. I really appreciate the opportunity. Well, you’re welcome. It’s It’s awesome to have you on. I’m so excited to hear your story. Let me give you everybody our listeners a great introduction for Eric. He’s only a hop, skip and a jump away from me today. I have been to his area of Idaho, and Spokane Washington area many, many times. As I told Eric a very funny story about Spokane. And he has been married for 17 coming up to 17 years. He has an 11 and an eight year old. He is an avid avid podcaster. He is a content creator and a voiceover. And he has a super podcast all about MMA fighters for all of you.
We have a huge MPC we are I know for a fact that we have a lot of MMA fighters or people that love it, as well as wrestling. So I’m excited to hear your story about where did it all start for you, Eric, because you have you’ve really come full circle.
Yeah, it’s interesting life for sure. You know, I grew up in eastern Washington out there in tri cities. And I grew up in what I thought was a typical household. So you know, went to Sunday school, played Little League. My parents then got divorced when I was 11 years old. And I had no idea what divorce was when they told me that I had never heard of the concept before. And they got divorced. And my parents split pretty quick. And my mom got together with a man that was very physically abusive it almost immediately.
And so I remember, you know, being 11 years old watching this kid, you know, watching this guy beat up on my mom, I would be outside of the house looking through the window, and they’re arguing, and he’d be hitting her with a cordless phone. And, you know, the police would come and my mom would never press charges. I never understood that and never understood why she decided to stay with that guy. Oh, then she got pregnant. And they decided to do the smart thing and move to Stevensville Montana, which is a small town population. 1200 people there, oh, they rented five acres.
OVERCOMING and Leaving a Legacy! And there was a house on that five acres. It was beautiful property, two pounds or two pawns. Right behind the bitterroot River, you know, really, really pretty area. But the problem was that house had three bedrooms. It was one for them, one for my brother, who was just a couple months old at the time, and one for my sister who was four years younger than me. And they said, Eric, you don’t live in the garage. I literally had half the garage to that was quote unquote, my bedroom. I had a black tarp at the end of my bed that separated my bedroom from the truck that pulled in. And my half of the garage had a fireplace. So it would keep me warm semi through the most of the night, I guess, when it would get down to negative degrees of Montana in the winters.
So I remember there was a lot of cold nights for sure. And you know, one night I was 13 years old, I was brushing my teeth wasn’t anything different than any of the night but they came home arguing. And as I was brushing my teeth, I felt my personal opinion. I felt God say man, you got to turn around and see what’s going on. And the way the house was set up was behind me was the kitchen to the pantry to the garage where I lived. And in that pantry hallway there to get to my bedroom, my bedroom door. He was on top of my mom and it was just boom, boom, boom, one shot after another just punched in the face. And like man, I gotta get this guy off. And so I snuck up behind him and I grabbed a cast iron pan and you know the heavy duty once you take with the campaign and I played Little League, I got a pretty good swing and I swung as far as I could. But the back of his head open. And I’m not laughing because of that. I’m just thinking that you thought you had a good swing. totally right. Yeah, you know, 13 years old run up. No, right.
So yeah, so I mean, I swung it as hard as I could split his head open. He turned around and he’s like what the end is he turned around I swung again. I split his forehead open. And I had swung so hard that second time I’d actually fallen over, he did not get knocked out because he was so drunk. And I remember him standing over me yelling and screaming, my mom jumps up lands, like six punches in a row bloods blocks on the wall. Cops show up, take him to jail for the night. My mom doesn’t press charges. And I was kicked out of the house at that point. So I had three months left in my freshman year of high school, so I just bounced around from friends houses and living on floors.
Why do you think she stuck around for that? Eric? Why would she want to live like that?
Yeah, it’s weird to me that, that anybody would do that. I didn’t understand it. I don’t know if it was fear, or I didn’t understand I and it’s still to this day, I have no idea. You know, after I got kicked out, that led me down this path of destruction for the next 10 years of my life. And you know, it was it was pretty insane for the next 10 years. And, you know, at that point, I, after my freshman year of high school, I moved back to live with my dad in Washington State, and he rented a house for him and I and who’d, but $20 in the cup for my lunch money for the week, hunger, man meals in the freezer and cereal milk in the house. And then he’d go stay with his girlfriend. So I would maybe see him a couple times a month in passing. But it was basically no adult supervision, no accountability.
OVERCOMING and Leaving a Legacy! You know, he got me a bus pass so I could get to school, because I didn’t have my license at the time. And so I was getting stoned. before school, I was getting stoned. During lunch. I was getting stoned after school. And I did that all through high school. And when I was a senior in high school, I actually got arrested for having a bomb, which is now legal in the state of Washington. But in 1998, it was not. And I had to go to jail black and white chain gang outfit on bright orange slippers. still being a senior in high school, I literally wrote and wrote a note to my dad, hey, I’m staying at Danny’s house. I’ll see you tomorrow, because I knew I was only going to be gone for 24 hours. And I knew that he wouldn’t call. And so I did. I went to jail and got out the next day and told him like 10 years later that I had actually been arrested at the time. But I was on probation for a year where I could not wow, you know, smoking pot. And so what that did was enhanced my drinking. So I just started drinking, I was taking acid and mushrooms and even to the point going to the store and taking by buying a bottle of Robert tussen de m cough syrup because it had morphine in it. And it would make me hallucinate.
And it cost half of the cost of acid. So I mean, really into drugs and heavy drinking at that time. And two weeks after I graduated high school, I woke up to a note on my mirror that said you can’t comply with house rules. You have 48 hours to get out. And so at that point, I was basically homeless between ages and yeah, basically homeless again. Yeah. So between ages of 18 and 21, I moved 21 times living on couches of friends of second cousins for week here week there two days there. I had $100 in my pocket, and I moved to Seattle, Washington to get into the music business. I don’t know how to play anything. I was just like, I just want to get in the music business. I love music. So I want to figure out how to get there. And so I basically, you know, lived off of credit cards. I got my first credit card at Sears and I got a video camera so I could record my buddies playing Skate or you know, on skateboarding, and then I was like, dude, I can get this for free. I go get another credit card and it just by Tom 21. I’m $28,000 in debt and have to file bankruptcy. That doesn’t take long, right? Yeah, you know. And so it took me a couple years when I got into Seattle, but I finally did land that job with Universal Records, which was you I was just a mailroom guy. I was working at a CD store and one guy walked in that was a rep for Universal Records.
And I jokingly said, Hey, man, how do I get your job? And he goes, Oh, you got to be an intern. He got to be in college and stuff. And so I went down to the local community college and I said, How much does it cost for me to you know, go through this internship program you guys have, they’re like, Oh, 300 bucks. So I pay through the box, I get my receipt. And I go to university and I say, Look, I’m an intern never went to a single class. And I said, Look, I’m an intern. They said, Okay, perfect. You can be an intern for us. So for six months, I just showed up every day at Universal just stuffing posters. I never got paid for it. And then after six months, I had Alright, well, this guy’s committed, we’ll start hiring you. So they hired me on as the mailroom coordinator, I was tracking sales and set a meet and greets. prom was while I was at Universal and the year prior, I was managing a band. So I had this two year span, right, went to about 175 concerts and had open tabs and every single one of those concepts very heavily, living a rock star lifestyle without being a rock star. I don’t know how to play any instruments. And that was a crazy time. I mean, I would never I don’t regret any of the things that I went through, because I think it made me the person I am today. But it was a crazy rock star lifestyle for two years for sure for me, but you obviously met some perfect people along the way that changed you. Right to to control you or to give you that guidance to to know right from wrong. I guess you could say somewhere around there.
OVERCOMING and Leaving a Legacy! Sort of Yeah, I mean, I was at so I remember there was a concert that I was at in downtown Seattle. I was in my early 20s. And there’s a music rep from another record label that was probably in her early 30s But I remember this moment so clear looking at her going, I do not want to be her age, going to concerts five nights a week and being away from a family. And it was a couple of weeks after that I got laid off my one year anniversary from Universal because of Napster. People didn’t realize that hurt the music industry actually killed the music industry very much. So at that time, and half our office got laid off and I was bottomed out also I got laid off. And I went into a deep depression. I was working at Starbucks at night, and I would get off work and go to the store, grab a six pack of beer go to my ghetto apartment, which was across the street from where Jimi Hendrix was buried there in Renton, Washington. And I would drink myself to sleep every night. And one night while I was working at Starbucks, this girl walked in and doesn’t drink coffee. And she said, hey, we’ve got this cool college aids event at our church, would you be interested in going while I was depressed? I had no friends. And she was really good looking. Absolutely. Yep, I’ll go tell me when
you no matter.
Yeah, I was like on it. So I couldn’t be right. You know, and so I got down there. And it was like this weird thing where God I believe God was planting seeds. There’s all these guys that I knew from high school, like man I haven’t seen in six years. I haven’t seen you in five years now what is what’s going on? And it was at this youth event. So I was just helping them set up and tear down and, you know, so I got there and did that. And about a month later, it was Easter 2004 I was managing a band. We went and played a concert the night before Easter, and I woke up Easter morning 2004 my buddy’s basement surrounded by probably 15 buddies, and you know all still sleeping, I woke up at five o’clock. And I felt in that moment. God just telling me, man, you’re going down this path that’s going to end your life very, very quickly if you don’t start making some changes. And I quit cold turkey drugs, drinking cigarettes right there. And I gave my life to Christ and my buddies basement. And I called that girl up, I got her voicemail and said, Hey, thank you for inviting that church event. Happy Easter, maybe I’ll see at the store. and a month later, we were dating and now she’s my wife of 17 years. Oh my gosh, yeah. That’s so cool. Yeah, we’re actually both born at exactly the same minute 1:41pm on her birth certificate seven days, every years, but the exact same minute.
Wow. It sounds like to me though, even though, you know, a lot of people could be homeless and, and there are stories about somebody bringing a homeless out of their environment, and what they can become. But with your story, it sounds like the universe really kept planting seeds to you. And you just, I mean, you flew into it. What you learnt in that music industry was probably really, really helpful for you in so many ways as well as prop. Yes. Right? Yeah,
it definitely was, and I love the connections that I had. But, you know, I got to see the perspective of, you know, if my life continues down this path, whether I have this relationship with with Christ or not, I remember that moment going. I love the music industry, and I still do to this day, I love going live concert. But I wouldn’t want to be in that five, six nights a week, like I saw a time, you know, right. I wonder why you thought that? What? What? You know, there must have been something that I don’t want this lifestyle. Yeah. Something deep inside of you.
I agree. I think I think that, you know, God has always watched over me. And I truly believe that because I grew up going to church, I think, you know, my grandma, who’s still alive today, she’s 87. She’s like four foot nine. And probably the most amazing person in my life. I spent so much time with her. And since the day I was born, and even to this day, she tells me that she prayed for me since day one. And I believe truly that her prayer kind of guided me through this life and got me to where I’m at today. And, and and maybe it was her prayer that put that thought in my mind at that concert that one night. I don’t know. But I remember that so clearly that I was like, You know what, I do want a family, I do want to have a life outside of just going to a concert every night. You know? And so I think that was what started it and I decided to make a change. And there Here we are today.
OVERCOMING and Leaving a Legacy! Because I mean, that lifestyle is wonderful for musicians. Sure. But it can be painfully wrong. For many. Yes, because sex drugs and rock’n’roll just doesn’t mix well. Right. Yeah, exactly. It causes other issues of course. You know it look at Britney Spears. And I mean all the young people that were affected by that lifestyle early on in their lives, some how it how it changed them. Good and bad. Yeah. Not very many basically got out of that lifestyle alive. Really. Yeah, I agree. And healthy and still here to tell the story. Um, it must be Very fast moving very fast lifestyle.
It is. Yeah. And you know, before I worked at Universal, my buddy was the manager of the gorge, which I’m sure you’ve heard of there, the gorge amphitheatre out there in Washington State. And so that full summer before I worked at Universal, I had backstage passes, I had open passes free concert anytime I wanted to go down there. And again, open tab. So that was part of this, you know, party rock, like a rock star, you know, personality. You know, I think it’s, there’s, there’s musicians that can make it through that, but it’s very, very tough.
Very tough. So, I mean, you saw your mom’s boyfriend with alcohol issues. Yeah. You didn’t think it would happen to you, if you kept on doing what he was doing?
I never thought of it. I never thought about that. I all I did was Hey, you know what I am subconsciously looking back now. I was numbing the pain that I was in. You know, I was, I was ashamed. And I was embarrassed of all that crap that I’ve been through and witnessed and, you know, embarrassed of my family, or my mom, you know, not pressing charges. And I hated to tell that story. Yeah, and only a few people knew that story up until about two years ago, when I decided to go, you know, publicly released my story. I’m 41. Now I didn’t tell my story. I was 39.
Wow. Yeah. Because you can’t understand it. Of course, because you’re when you’re been through something, you’re thinking, well, what’s it like that? Was it just me? Right? Right. So yeah, it takes a while. So you got through the bankruptcy. You got out of jail. You battled those addictions? Which you turned around. You never went back? Nope. To after switching that switch? Yep. Correct. Awesome. And that that’s tough all on its own. So you. You broke the chains of divorce? Is your mom still around now then?
Yeah, both my parents are still alive. I’m not close with either my parents. You know, we moved to Idaho, because we didn’t want people just knocking on our door randomly saying, hey, surprise, we’re here. Right? You know, so, you know, my dad lives in Washington State. My mom and my sister live in Texas. And then my brother, who was the you know, from my mom and her abusive boyfriend. I don’t even know how old he is. He’s probably 26 now, and I think he lives out in the Seattle area still.
So is your mom and him still together?
She ended that.
She ended that a couple years after that. But you know, and she ended up getting together with another guy who was an alcoholic, which, you know, if you look at historically, I think women, you know, at least in my mom’s situation, jumped to another alcoholic situation. You know, I that and she was okay with that. And they were together for a while. And then tragically, I think he ended up passing away and now she’s living out in Texas with another with another man. I’ve never met him. But my understanding is he’s a nice guy. Oh, thank goodness. Right? Yeah.
Finally, finally break that chain for her. She does she deserve some real life too. And so, um, you were sober. You were now you’re married? And what?
From the music industry that you enjoyed so much. You really did you you have a passion of it, I’m sure inside you.
Yeah. And my dad was a big music guy. So you know, I remember being at my grandma’s house the house that my dad grew up in as a young boy and my grandma would be watching me but I’d be downstairs and putting Elvis in the eight track player. And I grew up listening to Elvis so Elvis still to this day is probably one of my favorite artists. But yeah, I mean, ever since I was his as far as back as I can remember, I’ve always loved music and mostly rock and roll and you know, my dad took me to my first concert was Richard Marx and my 13th birthday took me to see Rod Stewart so I’ve seen people Yeah, yeah. And I’m sure you must have saw Supertramp in there somewhere. I have not seen Supertramp but they would be a great live show for sure.
So what what made you go into MMA fighting that industry that that world itself from music to to that it’s kind of cool.
Totally Yeah, it’s a great question because I grew up you know, my dad was would get mike tyson fights on pay per view and boxing fights on pay per view. So I always watch that. But my dad would also rent ninja movies that they spoke no English, we would just put it in and watch it and through all these ninja fight scenes as a kid I remember watching them and you know, I didn’t understand what they’re saying. But I love the action part of it. My dad would take me to local regional wrestling matches So way back in the early day got to see Dusty Rhodes and Jake the Snake before they got big, you know, like all these regional wrestling shows and then I ended up they did take me to probably five or six WWF events. As a kid too, so always was of combat sports fan, I remember being, you know, first grade me my cousin and Prosser Washington would walk like a mile to the store and we’d go get on UHF or VHS UFC one and two, and we’d watch that as kids and like first and second grade. And so just always this big fan. And then in 2012, I’m sitting around the house like man, I, I really want to get into MMA, you know, apparel side of things, tap out was huge at the time.
So I talked my wife, she came up with the name top rated MMA. And then we said, How do we make ourselves different, we launched as a 100%, American made MMA apparel company, there might have been one other company that was doing that at the time. And then we wanted to be able to give back so we reached out to Brian Stan’s organization, Brian standard used to fight the UFC, started an organization called hire heroes, USA, which helps veterans and their families transition into the workplace. Sorry, my camera just flipped off there for a second. But they help transition veterans and their families back into the workplace for free. And so we give back 20% or excuse me, 25% of all the money that I generate through affiliate links on my website, I give back to that organization. So just always been a fan. So top rated may started as a pro company. And then in 2015, I got bored with it. I literally put an ad in Craigslist and said who wants to buy this company. And one guy called me up one of the offered me 1000 bucks or 3000 bucks or something like that. But I realized in that call that I wasn’t ready to quit. And so I spent the next year just kind of barely getting by with the company and then launched in 2017 as the top rated MMA show, and now we are 238 episodes into this thing. And 100 episodes on my other podcast and humbly considered the number one MMA podcast out here in the Northwest. Oh, that’s awesome. Thank you. Like you know that that’s, that’s and so you have the apparel obviously still then you have the whole works.
Yeah. I do it all myself now. So I made a lot of business mistakes bought inventory like crazy and you know, ended up donated a bunch. But yeah, I just I do my own onesie. twosie now, yeah, well, that you have to find what works. And, and I mean, the printing industry itself for clothing has changed so much throughout the years in the last five years, especially. Totally. So everybody in the printing industry has have had to change that world of whatever that looks like. What kind of people have you had on your show?
So I talk with a lot of up and coming amateur fighters and early pro fighters because I like to get these guys that are what’s their mindset, like my initial quest, I guess when I started the podcast was why do you want to get into cage you got punched in the face? And that was my question to all of them when I started, you know. And really I’ve heard everything from I did karate and wrestling and transition MMA. Do I have a federal offense and I can’t get a real job, but I can go fight somebody and get food on my table for my kids. And so I love those stories of hearing people why they want to do that. So I have all the anyone from up and coming amateurs are the pros. I’ve been able to speak with Ken Shamrock twice. A lot of the guys that are in the UFC today have been on my show, you know, both on the Ultimate Fighter right now, Brady heinsohn. I forget now and that his opponent they’re fighting next week. They were both on my show. And so you know both of those guys, Josh Ryan houses name. But yeah, both those guys have been on my show. They’re both from here in Spokane area. And so it’s been cool to see these early fighters, then now get it into the Big Show. And so I love talking with early up and coming fighters and I talk with fighters all over the world. It’s been fun.
And they all have their stories to write.
OVERCOMING and Leaving a Legacy! Yeah, they all have their stories. So I love to ask them, you know, Hey, where did you grow up? And what was childhood like for you? You know, and a lot of times I hear that, you know, they had good childhoods. And then I hear some that are like, man, I had a horrible childhood, my parents got divorced, and they were addicted to drugs. And I got my way out of it. And now I’m changing my mindset of how to do that and how to provide for my own family. And so I love those stories. I love to you know, talk about like real fighters real stories is kind of what I talk about. And, you know, over to the entrepreneurship podcast, the same thing I asked the entrepreneurs like, why do you want to get punched in the face? Hopefully not physically. But as an entrepreneur, we get punched in the face all the time with nose rejections and failures, and how do we get through that? And so I that’s what my entrepreneurship side of stuff talks about kind of the same thing as being in the cage, isn’t it? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, I have a very special quote that I say in most of my podcasts, and just talking about your backup plan. And do you know what Mike Tyson’s quote is, by the way, everybody feels tough until you get punched in the face or something like that. Something like that. I don’t think I don’t think I got that quote correctly, but I think it’s something very similar. like everyone’s tough until you get everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Yes. by Mike Tyson. Yeah, absolutely. Isn’t that the truth? So much so, because we, you know, with your backup plan, I do talk to some people and say, you know, I have a will, and I have some life insurance. And I have my house insurance, and I have my medical, you know, I have a plan. And I say, you don’t know you don’t have a plan until you get punched in the face. Yes. And then you realize that what I had wasn’t what I wanted, in the first place. Or that I didn’t understand what I had in the first place. Right? Yeah. So that’s what what we’re all about is me trying to help people understand what they have and what they need. Because they may not understand what they need. Just like an MMA fighting. If you don’t know that you have to fight a certain way and hold up your fists in front of yourself. You’re gonna get knocked out. Yes, it won’t take long. Right before somebody punches you. Yeah. in the wrong place. Yeah, exactly.
So, um, what kind of fun stories do you think you’ve come across that would be I mean, I always revert back to Ken Shamrock story. Cuz, you know, that guy, he’s, he’s done. Like, he got adopted as a very young kid. But he’s always want he’s always been a fighter. Right? Like, you know, having him on a show on my show and hearing his story of like, having to fight kids at the school yard that were like, you know, three, four grades older than him, you know, and getting stabbed when it was a young kid to I mean, just crazy, crazy story. And, you know, I think he broke his back or his neck at one point, you know, and then he was in the WWF.
And he was doing the UFC. And he’s, you know, I think he was on Impact Wrestling for a while, like, the way that he can, like, present himself is just the solid dude, and probably one of the nicest guys that have ever got to talk to you. And the fact that I got to talk to him twice, was just mind blowing to me, because he’s just such a great genuine guy. And what he’s got going on with valor Belden Bare Knuckle coming up soon later this year, it’s his his own promotion, Bare Knuckle fighting. I think he’s got a really solid plan for moving forward. You know, he’s just such a great, great guy. One day, I talked to Ken Shamrock. And then an hour later, I thought, I talked to Ed, my lead who’s like, my virtual mentor guy. And it was like the best day ever, I had so much information that was given to me that day, it was just unbelievable.
I find it so interesting. Because when you speak to these types of people and like yourself, there’s so much business involved in that whole mentality of strength, and focus, and being aggressive enough to get your point across and being aggressive enough in the ring to get what you want done. Yeah. Because it obviously isn’t just go in there and be a brute. There’s there’s mental technical things to it, just like hitting a ball in baseball. Yep. It’s so very interesting how business all comes out of this and how it’s formed you as, as people, just like hockey and baseball, and you know, that kind of training. So you’re very lucky to have been involved in that kind of stuff. I’m sure musicians find it that way, too. Because they have to have that mentality as well.
Yeah, you know, a lot of the overall theme, I think, when I talk with entrepreneurs and fighters is one, they got to be dedicated and committed to what they’re doing. You know that what are they doing what they’re passionate about? And are they committed to it. And for me, I wake up at 4pm, six days a week to work on my goal. You know, it doesn’t matter how late I stay up on Friday night, I’m still waking up at 4am on Saturday. And I might have to take a nap on Saturday, but I’m getting up at 4am no matter what, because I committed myself to do that. And so that allows me to get upstairs to work on editing to reach out to guests to, you know, put shows out do voiceover work and practice speaking and things like that. And so I think overall, whether you’re in the cage or you’re an entrepreneur, you have to have those that committed and dedication and keep fighting for what you’re passionate about.
Yeah. What do you think these fighters that you’ve come across? What do you think, change their lives that this is what they want to do? Is there a component that’s similar in all of them? I think all right. I think the overall theme that I’ve heard from MMA fighters come on the show is the reason they want to do that is because they want to push the limits of their body. And really, it’s like, how can we do this? Like, a lot of them, like, they love to get into the cage and just fight. And I’ve had guys say, if there’s ever a fighter that tells you they’re not scared to get in that cage, they’re lying to you. Because backstage I asked them, like, What? Where do you feel it before you walk out to a cage, knowing you’re gonna get locked into a cage? There’s a door behind you, it’s gonna shut there’s another guy or girl across the cage for me that wants to physically hurt you. Yeah, you know, what’s the mindset going into that and a lot of like, you know what, once you’ve like trained, then in, that’s what you’re passionate about. The pain, they don’t feel it during the fight. And they know 99% of the time. It’s not anything personal. It’s both of them doing their job. And you’ll see it after the fight. I love the respect that fighters have for each other. After the fight. It’s handshakes, it’s hugs, man, thank you for this. Thank you for that. They both grow stronger, win or lose. And I love that aspect of it of the fighting. Yeah, but watching them fight and getting knockout and stuff like that is fun. But I love the mutual respect that comes out of fighting.
Do you think the mental strength is the winner?
A lot of times, yes, yep. You have to be mentally stronger. And really, whoever is mentally stronger in that fight is going to win that. Absolutely. And in a fight anybody, anything can happen, right? But I think the mental, the more mental stronger person is going to win that fight.
And being involved in softball, like I was, as a softball Mom, I realize that going up to bat wasn’t all technical. I mean, it definitely is knowing the sweet spot of the bat and, and how you stand and all that fun stuff. Sure, but it’s the mental game. Yes. I played baseball for 10 years. And, you know, I coach Little League now. And it’s, it’s it is a mental battle when you get up to bat. You know, I remember being in Montana, and I was playing for the all star team up there. And there’s a kid that during the league, his name was Toto, and this guy being 13 years old, he was an Indian guy. And he threw like 80 miles an hour at 13 years old. I mean, very, very fast. One of the kids that was I went to school with got hit in the head by him. And it actually like made him go half blind, and one of his eyes and I was like, when I get up to bat against this guy, and the catcher is like, here comes a fastball, tell me exactly what’s coming. I’m shaking. I’m like, I don’t want to get beat by this guy. And I only had a bat against him two times over two seasons, and he walked me both times. And then when I made all stars, we were teammates, and he’s the nicest guy ever, but I would never want to get beaten by a hit by that guy. By pitch for that guy.
Well, the girls were funny too, because sometimes the pitchers would come up and they were twice, you know, their size. Sure. And everybody be like, Oh, God, I don’t want to get up to bat with that. You know, I hope I get locked. And it’s just such a wrong mentality to have. And you go up to bat? Absolutely. Because it’s all mind focus. And that. Who cares? Who’s pitching to you? Who cares? Yep. It’s just the ball coming at you. From whatever arm? Absolutely. Right. So I guess it’s like that in the cage. It’s whatever somebody looks like, or makes you feel intimidated? Or? I guess it’s like that in the business world, too. So there you go. Yep. Exactly. So um, now that you’re married and have kids and what is? Have you ever thought of your backup plan? Because, you know, your backup plan isn’t just for wills and life insurance. It’s you have a podcast? What do you want to have happen to your podcast? If something happened to you tomorrow?
You know, that’s a great question. Because I don’t think that I’ve planned for my podcast, what happens when I’m gone? You know, I’ve always just go, like, I’m gonna run this thing until I’m not passionate about it anymore. And, you know, if, for some reason I wasn’t here tomorrow, the podcast would go away, you know. And I hope that in the short time that I’ve been able to put out podcasts and put out shows and connect with people, and share my story, that I’m impacting one person, at least, you know, that’s a personal goal of mine. If I wake up and open my eyes, there’s when number one I jump out of bed, make a bed, there’s two wins and 15 seconds, it’s gonna be an awesome day. But then my next goal is to make sure that one person virtually or in person gets a smile on their face from me. And so if I can do that every single day, then that’s that’s the goal. But, you know, backup plans, I have the life insurance, but I didn’t think about it till I was in my early 30s. And I started have kids, and I was like, What if I wasn’t here? Yeah, damn, I better get my stuff organized. Right? Yeah. So you know, you know, I started getting smarter financially after I filed bankruptcy. And I started, you know, realizing that I do need to have that financial backup plan for my wife and my kids. If for some reason I’m not here, you know, and things like that. So yeah, I mean, I think we’re good to go on. Life backup plan, but in regards to my show, I’m gonna run it as far as I can. And if for some reason, I’m not here one day, then it’s probably because I’m not here one day.
But you see, just by me mentioning to someone like you, yeah, there’s going to be other listeners that I feel passionate about helping to that. I want you to think it’s going to come up in your mind at some point and say, Hey, you know, Tina was right. I should be thinking about who do I want to give this to? Who do I want to have continue it? You know, maybe it’s your wife, maybe it’s somebody different? Maybe? You know what, even if I was incapable, but still living, what would I want have happen? Right? To that show? Yep. Because it’s part of you. It’s part of your life. Yes. Just like your life itself. And yeah, that’s see I’ve made a change, hopefully, was somebody listening today to start thinking about their blog, their podcasts, their website, their other stream of income that they have coming in? You know, it could all disappear after they’re gone? Yes, totally. So why not? Why not have it have a plan in place? So Oh, that’s awesome. Thank you so very much. Do you have any last notes for our listeners, I just want to thank you for the opportunity and the honor to be on your show. This was amazing. You’re a great host, and people definitely need to be listened to your show.
Oh, thank you. And you’re so sweet. I I just I don’t know what to say. Thank you so very much. Um, yeah, I hope somebody you know, this is why we do our shows. This is why we get up in the morning. And this is why I find great people like you to come on our shows because you never know what’s gonna come around the corner. You don’t know who’s gonna listen to something and say, hey, that’s my life. Or maybe I should you know, that your mom’s story or, or your story about being a kid and that instance. It’s, it’s awesome. It’s, it’s an awesome enlightenment for people. So thank you very much for sharing it and being open. And having the courage to, to bring it to the forefront. Absolutely. Thank you. And so everybody, it’s that time I, I would love to talk to Eric some more. He’s, he’s so great to listen to. And he has so many great people that he’s also interviewed. So thank you so very, very much for our story today. It’s been great. If you are, don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe because Eric’s notes are all down
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That’s always going the wrong way. And down here in the corner, somewhere there, subscribe. And like and click on the bell because you have to ring my bell ring my bell, down there below. Don’t forget, I hope we’ve inspired you and motivated you guys to Eric’s story. It was fantastic, inspiring. He’s such a great, cool guy. And remember, nobody’s Superman in this world. Everybody has a story. So expect the unexpected. And if you are listening to the show right now, and you have someone in your mind, that you would like to reach out to and tell them how much you love and care about them. Please pick up that phone, send them a text, call them on FaceTime, zoom, Skype, you name it. We’ve got all the technical stuff now. Do it because you don’t know what tomorrow may bring. I hope that you can also look at start thinking about your unique plan. And I hope it’s giving you some inspiration and motivation to what Eric has told you about life and all the things that’s happened to him. And I thank you for sharing your time with us and watching and I love each and every one of you and I always end and Carol Burnett. I think you still know who Carol Burnett is right, Eric? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Carol Burnett, such a beautiful, beautiful comedian in this world. And I love I love her so dearly. I’m so glad we had this time together. Just to have a laugh or sing a song seems we just get started. And before you know it comes a time we have to say so. Long. So long, everybody. It was great having you on board with our show today. Thank you click on that bell, like, share and follow. Thank you, Eric, for coming on. Thank you. It was a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Thanks so much. Bye for now. Stay safe- Be Kind!
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