20 min AFTER DEATH EXPERIENCE
20 min After Death experience makes you a better person, grateful for what you have and what you can have! Our amazing interview this week, with one of my favorites is Scott Drummond.
“Sometimes a near death experience helps them put things into perspective”, Anne Shropshire
Hey, Scott. Hello. I would like to give you an A wonderful introduction from Scott Drummond, who comes to us as a retired retired government worker for 16 years now.
Our title this week, of course, is 20 minutes after death experience and for many the question of What happens when we die is a mysterious one?
From a recent survey found 55% of people are absolutely certain there’s an afterlife 37% are not certain. And 8% are certain there isn’t an afterlife. Isn’t that interesting stats. But for some who have been through near death experiences, the question has a clear answer. And I’m sure Scott’s going to share that with us today. Well, welcome Scott, I’m so blessed, and happy to have you on our show today. Thank you, thank you so very,
WHERE DID YOUR STORY START?
And I’d like to start where does your story start? Scott, from? What kinds? Where did it all begin for you?
Well, I guess from a very young age, I’m 68 years old now. My experience started when I was 28. But it started way before that, really dead I, I grew up, like most people, you know, at a normal learning about life. And mine kind of changed a little bit I and my younger years, I played a lot of sports. And so I kind of loved the game of sport. And my drive in life was to, to be a professional ballplayer. And that was what I did. That’s, that’s all I wanted to be in life. That is life went on and, and my, my career ended, I decided to get a job and take care of my family. Well, that’s no fun. For beautiful kids. We, we kind of changed the way we were doing things a little bit. And yet, as a, as an athlete, you have a drive. And it’s no different when you get into business, you still have that drive. And the drive is escalating, to have gang, it’s just normal on the way of this world. And when I turned 28 years old, and had this experience, I had to re evaluate everything that was going on in my life. And I’ll tell you a little bit about the story. And then I’ll kind of back it up later. Sure.
We, you know, I was with a friend of mine, and we went skiing, and I love to ski and her dad at most of my life and we were up at Park City and we were just having a good time. And I’m standing in the lift line and one of the there was a lady that was coming down Poles were going every which way and and she ran into me in the lift line. And it was okay. You know, we picked her up and she got back in the lift line and we kept on going well, I end up skiing the rest of the day. And at the end of the day, I went to the car and I was taken off my ski equipment and put it in the car and took off the globe. And my thumb was hanging straight down. And I knew I knew I was kind of in trouble. Because when I got in the warm car start heating up I started hurting.
Yeah. Oh, and so we scheduled start surgery and I met at the hospital in May. The doctor laid me down on the table and and put a sheet just kind of went right over by between my head my shoulder, lay down on the table and he pulled my arm out and started working on my thumb. Well, they didn’t have an anesthesiologist. She was called away on another assignment. So what they did is they caught they did a they call a bear block. It’s a tourniquet that they put on your arm. And if I show you here, but it was right here on my arm, and I had to bounce on it. And it’s an inflatable tourniquet and they don’t use them anymore because of the against some of the problems they had with it. Well, when I when they started the surgery, you will it go on well, and things started getting a little tight as far as pressure on my arm. And so what you do is you have two valves, you It first of all tightened up, she loosened up one of the bowels and the other one stayed tight. So the medicine would still work well on my arm. Well, while longer started, the pressure started coming on again. And she instead of tightening up the one valve, and then loosen in the second book, she opened up the second one. And that’s when I felt the medicine going up my alarm up into my chest and across into my heart.
Now, I remember before the started her telling the doctor that she’d never done this procedure before. Because Oh, nice. Oh, just said already take always taking care of it. And the doctor says, I’ll talk you through it because he had done before. Now, like I said, I don’t thought about this nurse. And I don’t fault the doctor. It’s just something that happened.
Right. The next thing I knew I had left my body. And I was sitting up above, watching the surgery. And I was watching the doctor put stitches in my hand. I was watching he put a thumb back together. And I watched him take some stuff out of my arm, tendons out of my arms, and wrapped around my thumb, and I watched him put a screw in. And what was odd is I was standing. I was sitting up there watching this whole thing. But I wasn’t alone. There was someone that was sitting next to me that I didn’t, I couldn’t see. They were sitting right next to me, but I couldn’t see him. But I knew I wasn’t alone. When did you have a feeling of who they could be? Did you feel you know, I don’t I like I said, I never did see the person other than when they talked to me. It was like I knew that voice. So whether it was somebody I knew previously or a guardian angel or said somebody was there with me. I wasn’t alone. And after watching a surgery happened for an I’m not sure how long because there was no clocks. No time that I could see I knew about or I could see. The person next to me said it was time to go. And there was no question in my mind that he didn’t talk to me mouth to mouth. He talked to me through my mind. And in a twinkle of an eye I went to a different place. And before I say what happened in this next place from the time that I left my body I was in total peace I don’t know if you’ve ever felt peace before in your life but this was a different kind of peace. It was a very calming very like everything was okay. safe to say yeah, you’re safe.
But when I went to the, to the next place, I was standing in a field and in this field was on my very far left was real tall trees. And it was the most unusual trees that I’ve ever seen. It was a long long trunk on it real tall with just leaves up on top. Which I have never ever seen a tree like that. I mean I’ll recognize it when it happens to get I hope but a I’ve never seen a tree like that before. And then on my left in between where the trees were. And where I was was beautiful, beautiful wildflower. It was the most vivid colors I have ever seen. I’m a I’m a gardener. I love flattened flowers and doing vegetable gardens. But I have never ever seen that vibrant colors in my life. And it’s colors that I’ll never forget because it would be something that I would like to create if I could someday. Yeah so so beautiful. So beautiful. Right? really pretty. Now this these flower wild flowers were probably up well, I they they looked like they were up around my waist or Like a meadow, like a meadow, right? That would be, I can’t even say it was a meadow because it was an open field, just with flowers, just tall wild flowers. But in front of me, and then to the right, there were tall grass. And the tall grass was, again, somewhere around my waist area. And I remember the grass kind of flowing.
It was it was so peaceful. That there was a piece I can’t really describe. It’s a piece that I try to feel every day. But I it’s not the same, but I try to emulate it as much as I can. Because it just felt so perfect for you.
It felt so good. So good. And I sat there for a while and kind of looked at the beauties. What was so different about this place that I was at, as I can see, a long ways to the left. A long ways to the right. I wasn’t allowed to look back. And I could I could see forward but it was there was clouds in front of me. And why I don’t know. But it was it was it was a cloud.
Just had to put this one in there for Y’all!
And then all of a sudden, I felt like I was that person was gone that brought me to that place
that place. Yeah. Did you feel? Did you feel other than the peacefulness? Did you feel like warm air? Or like any other senses? Did you feel? No, it was, it was too perfect. It was it was nothing to be concerned about it was it was just a good, good feeling. At that time, when I felt that person not there anymore. I started watching a video of my life. And it started when I was born all the way until I was 28 years old. And some things that I was felt good about some things I did not feel too good about. But what it was is was real was it like on fast forward like a fast moving video,
I got to see it. It was pretty, pretty vivid everything that happened to me.
And all the way up until I was 20 years old. And it was like you Okay, the video was over. And like I said, some of it was good. Some of it was not so good. But I there was no way to argue it. Talk to what I saw was what it was. And I was I accepted it. And I knew I knew that I was dead. There was his feeling like I was now first of all, I was instructed not to look back. Yeah, no, it was I was to move forward. And after I watched, watch that video, I I knew I had to do better. There was something I you know, I had to do better at something. I couldn’t look back at what happened and know that I failed. It’s just that I knew I had to do something better. Well, at that time when the video was over, I just kind of went okay, whatever’s next is next. And I stood up and and started walking forward towards that cloud.
And I’ll never forget that that cloud because it was the most calming feeling all the way from where I watched the video of my life all the way to the cloud. I knew everything was gonna be okay. And I judged myself. Nobody else judge me. I just judged myself. Then all of a sudden about this much of an hour came to the cloud. And I went to reach for like a man’s hand arm or a woman’s It was a man’s arm. And I remember I remember looking at that arm and they can look like somebody that was a farmer or somebody that worked in construction had big arms. They were they were bigger than And I’m, I’m not a small man, I’m, I’m 632 160 pounds, and his arms are bigger than mine.
And I remember his hands were strong. My hands, I felt like our strongest to me. But his hand his his hands were his fingers were a lot more Meatier than mine. So I could tell that he was a very strong and had work, heavy work or done something that made him strong. But then I, as I went to to grab that hand a voice came that says it is not yet your time you have more things yet to do. And that’s a saying that I have never ever forgot. And never will, because that was so pertinent to the situation and, and so much of an issue at the time. Yeah, I don’t know how to I don’t know how to explain it. Well, because you’re sitting there, you know, where you’re supposed to move forward, but you weren’t sure what was next.
So I just was there. Yeah, it was weird. It was a twinkling of an eye that I was back in my body. And I, I did not want to come back. The feeling that I had was indescribable. When it came back into my body, the doctor said that I had looked like I had a war going on in my body. Oh, because I was all over the table. And I I told him later when he when we sat down and talk that I didn’t want to come back. I I felt like I came back because I was a very selfish person.
I had mostly everything that I in life, you know, playing. I played over in Europe and played basketball and played college ball and basketball or baseball and I’ve you know, things were Earned it.
But a lot of things were given to me. Right. And but one thing that I did not do is I could have been better to people. And I could have been better to other people that helped me along the way. And I saw things that that I walked away from instead of helping people with. And I felt like that that was one of the reasons why I was sent back. Now, when they were willing me out of the out of surgery, into the hallway, I had a paper on my chest. And on that paper that I had been, I had been dead for 20 minutes. My wife didn’t know that I died. In fact, it was something that we didn’t talk about for for quite a while. Because I thought what had happened was well was was surreal was it? You know, how do you take something that I saw and try to share it with somebody else? Yeah. How do you start explaining that? I didn’t know how to do it. And to be honest with Yeah, it took took a took quite a while for me to talk to my wife about it. And I shared it with her and I shared bits and pieces of it with my kids. But to talk about it with anybody else wasn’t on the wasn’t on the we put on the table.
Right? What did the doctor say Scott? Were they was he surprised?
SURPRISED THE DOCTOR
Oh, he was he was shocked. You know, for three days after the surgery. He would come into the hospital room and talk to me and ask me questions and and who was at the you were talking to who was you know, who was you fighting with? Who was you know, what was going on on that table and he was he was shocked when I told him about the stitches at put up my hand and and the ligaments say they took out of my forearm and wrapped around my thumb and the pan he says you couldn’t have seen that. He said there was a sheep Between you and me. You couldn’t have seen that. And I? I told him Well, I did. I saw it. But I couldn’t go into any detail with him because I think I was crazy. Maybe. Needless to say, it took me from 28 years old to 67 to really come out and talk about this, and it was a it wasn’t really wasn’t anything that I had planned. I, we went, What? I have a friend here that His name’s Wes and, and we were we were talking one day, and I was telling him I’m not afraid to die. And he says, oh, everybody’s afraid to die. And I said, No, I’m not. I, I know that there are something after this. And I know that. If I do better in life, maybe there’ll be a better place for me. And that that was a year before he came back to me. In fact, it might have been over a year. And he, he came back and he says, you know, with this COVID thing happening right now he says people need some hope.
They need to know what kind of ahead of them. And I told him, I told him no. I said, I can’t talk about it. And finally, I went back and talked to my wife about it. And she says, Well, maybe the timings right. Maybe it’s time for you to say something. Maybe other people might need some hope for somebody that needs some piece of a family member dying or. And I just kind of took it took it at that. And then finally I said Well, I guess maybe I’ve held it inside long enough. But I learned this every day. I mean, I I see these things. Since I’ve 28 years old. I know the details. And what happened. And I’ll never forget something that I’ve tried to work on. And you know, each day is a different day. As you all know, Tina, every day is different. We, what we do today affects us for the rest of our lives. It does and let it happen. But make tomorrow a better day. And something that I’ve done. It’s strange, but I replay prioritize my life almost every day. Okay, what happened yesterday? And what am I going to do today, you know, to make this better? And I’m not perfect. Please don’t. Please don’t even think that I am just a regular person. But I try to do better every day, hoping that I can maybe make a difference in somebody’s life. And hopefully, maybe through this, I might be able to make a difference in somebody’s life on your show.
I wanted to ask you because of your story. I had a very similar experience. My ex father in law was passing away in the hospital, in the hospital room, and it was just him in the room. And there was about nine people sitting around his bed. And we were been there for about three days. And I couldn’t seem to go in the room and stay in the room. I was too hot. I was sweating. Literally sweat was pouring down me. And so I leave the room and I come back in and I was nice and cool out in the hallway and I go visit other patients in the hospital on the floor. And I come back in and I would see him shake his head and he couldn’t really talk but he would mumble like he was talking to someone and everyone else was sitting there with their coats on. And I kept saying to everybody, aren’t you guys hot like I am drenched. I am so hot. And I didn’t know what that feeling was like you because you’re you’re in the moment and you’re not really sure what you’re experiencing. I’ve never actually experience that before. And you could see him talking. But he wasn’t talking to us. So that’s similar to what I guess the doctor saw you doing. And then all of a sudden, when he died, that air of the cloud, it was like a cloud. It was like, it was like, there was a cloud in the room, and it just lifted and then there was all of a sudden fresh air in the room. And he left. And it was such a, it was such a different space have the tension of the energy and the heat in the room to it cooling off and dissipating. It was truly magical. And I couldn’t explain it either. I felt very much like you. People would think I’m crazy. Because they couldn’t understand what was happening. Like, I knew the people from who he was talking to were there. And I’m sure they were trying to tell him, he’s okay. He can come. You know, you’ll be fine. And he kept on he’d shake his head every now and then you’d see him talking. So he was chatting with them, obviously. But for me, I’m on the outside looking in. I’m thinking What the heck is going on? So yeah, I feel I bet you felt that piece. Oh, yes. This is very, very real. It sure is, was that that was a piece of love. That was shared with you.
LIVING IN THE MOMENT
Imagine that when your habit happened? You don’t like everyone was getting mad at me because I was so hot. And I couldn’t help it. I I just felt it. I could totally feel them all coming towards him saying Come on. It’s it’s time for you to go. Come on. It’s okay. I just I mean, I literally didn’t see them. And I couldn’t but I I felt it. So it’s that feeling that you can’t seem to explain. Right? I can totally understand. Did you feel the air difference? Like Did you feel it cooler or warmer or anything? Do you feel remember?
No, because I was actually living the moment. I wasn’t somebody outside look at in. Actually just live in the moment. Yeah, that was fun for you.
Yes, Yes, it was. It was special. Although I thought it was crazy at the time like you. Because it’s so hard to explain. I mean, nobody explains that to us. And you couldn’t you still can’t figure out who that person was that was there with you. You just knew it was recognized.
I just know that I recognize the voice. I’ll never forget the arm. I’ll never forget that arm in a you know, I’m a Christian. And I’ve always believed you know that Jesus Christ would would meet me when it was time and that voice was so familiar. I don’t know how to explain it other than it was a very warm and very calming voice. I’ll never forget that voice. recognize it when the time comes again.
Yeah, absolutely. I guess they’re there to help us and guide us and you were definitely being guided to what you should be doing.
Whatever that is, I hope so. So all I do is just try to I try to be a good person. And I think all of us need to be kinder to other people and you know, during this time, you know watching what’s going on with the nurses and doctors and this COVID activity I you know, I’m I said this before on my video, I’m not the hero. These people are are my heroes, as first responders are their heroes are the ones that help them. They take care of them they try to bring them back you don’t you know you feel bad for those that are the long haulers, you know that are having problems afterwards. And I was fortunate enough not to get COVID and I’ve had my shots. I’m thrilled to death. I’m fully vaccinated. Yay. Yeah, it is it sure caught. It’s a common feeling. But even during that whole time, there was no fear. I that’s one thing, I guess, that I’ve, I’ve been blessed with is, since that time is I, you know, I don’t get nervous about life.
You know, what is supposed to happen to me is going to happen to me. And it’s like anybody, it can happen at a blink of an eye. You know, we could be here we could, we could leave our houses and walk cross street and get run over by a car. Yeah, you know, are we ready? No. But we can try to be good to other people. And yourself. Yeah, try to be good to yourself.
Take it another step. It’s obviously definitely changed your life. And I know after my few experiences I’ve had it’s changed mine because it takes a while to kind of sink in, doesn’t it? afterwards, did that take a while to really process it?
Well, I I’ve been process trying to process most my life. You know, first of all, why me? And most of our right now why am I sharing it? You know, I, I thought this was a very, and it still is a very sacred thing to me. very private to me. I I I still can’t believe I even came out and said anything about this in the first place? You know, I’m not in this for gain. If anything, I’m if I can help somebody get to where they want to be. I’ll help them wherever I can.
And what kind of baseball did you play? For? What teams did you play for it?
I just played college ball. High School.
Nice. Nice. Yeah, we come from softball lives. Sounds fun. Yeah. My one daughter plays. Yes, yes, our days are over. So you have to hope that your kids can enjoy it as well. So you had all girls then?
No, I have two boys are the oldest a both went into extreme sports I I like snowboarding and and mountain biking and Cliff climbing and they did the extreme sports. And then I have two girls that are younger. And they’re both active and, and good girls.
Nice. I think you’re probably supposed to share it because things seem to change during COVID. I think. I think our realization of life changed. And it’s probably pushed you to show that experience to others to help heal others because I think we all have worried about having that family member that you weren’t be able to sit beside while they were dying. Or while they were recovering. Or, you know, it changed our lives the way people were being in hospices not being able to go visit or long term care facilities. And if everything just changed in the blink of an eye, basically.
And I previously had an experience, my mother in law just passed away. And she was in her 90s and sweet, sweet lady. And all three of her kids were able to be there and I was one of them, as well as them being in the room. And it was a it was a sweetest feeling that anyone could have had. She was very coherent, paying attention to everything that was going on in the room. And all of a sudden locked up in the corner of the room and then passed away. And I knew that I felt that feeling. I felt it very vividly. And I told the three kids I say she’s gone. I know that feeling. And but yet, it was a very sweet feeling. And I was I was thrilled that all of the kids were able to be there with her during that experience.
Something that I’ve never shared Tina is ahhh. This is something else it really holds tight in my heart is I was I was given a gift. You know, I got a gift to come back. Yeah, I get, I get to be with my wife now 47 years and I get to see my kids grow up and I get to see my grandkids grow up. And I mean, I wouldn’t have had that experience effect, I wouldn’t even have met my youngest daughter, because she wasn’t even born yet. But I felt like I’m the I’m the luckiest man there is. To be able to, first of all have a great wife. I mean, we’ve had 47 great years together now have they been easy? No. She’s a woman, I’m a man. So you know, we, we, we work hard at it. And we try to help each other wherever we can. You know, when you’re when you’re talking about gifts, I see something that most people don’t see in their lifetime. When I go to funerals, I actually get the opportunity to see people at their funerals. When they go into their funerals a up in the upper right hand corner I see there, I see him. And it’s not something that that is
imaginary. It’s not imaginary. It’s It’s It’s there. It’s real. And I don’t know why that gift was given to me. But I get to see their smiles as they look over their families. And I think that they’re happy. They look happy.
And the last one, that funeral that I went to, I normally just see one person. This time I saw several people that were there. And I think it was there might have been their family members that were there with them. This is a I don’t know why this happens. But I felt like this was a gift. And I don’t talk about this very much. But it’s it’s one of those things that I feel very fortunate. Well, it’s funny because my cup today exists. It’s exactly what you are. You’re blessed. You’re blessed to show a point to your spear you’re blessed to be given that opportunity to, to really share with yourself as with others. It’s beautiful, beautiful story. Do you think you would have grabbed that man’s hand? Do you think?
Yeah. Yes, I was trying to grab it. But he said you’re not ready yet? No, you’re not yet your time you have more things yet to do.
That’s beautiful. And so you’re living out still have those different things? Has there been any other instances where it’s flashed back to you in certain cases?
reminded Yes. flashback No. But a little, a little voice reminding you. Well, myself, definitely reminding myself what I need to do.
How do you think your kids feel about the story?
I don’t know. I can’t, I can’t tell you how they process it. And I can only tell you that. It makes me feel good. But if I’m able to tell him about it. I haven’t. I’m hoping that what it does is it gives him maybe a little comfort knowing that there’s more to this life than than being here. It really put in my mind that there must have been something before we came here. There definitely something while we’re here and there’s definitely something after we’re not here.
Right. But you just haven’t figured that part out yet. I keep working on it. It’s kind of like, Are there aliens? You know, when we’re not really sure. We’re not sure. It could be maybe just people from the past for all we know, who knows, but I’m not the scientific person, but I, I can feel your energy from, from that feeling because there’s, I can’t explain to listeners, how beautiful, how warm and like you don’t even question yourself. Like if some stranger came and put their hand out, you would obviously question yourself, do I go forward? Do I grab their hand do not grab their hand, like, you literally do that? Right? You just don’t reach out grab anybody’s hand. But in that circumstance, it’s just so different. Right? Yeah. It’s just so peaceful and so welcoming, and so touching and so warm and inviting, and I just don’t have enough words to tell how it feels. I’m totally there with you on. On that comfort it gives you to know that you’re not alone. And that there’s people up there looking after you. I guess. Is that how you feel like there’s other people, I there are no doubt in my mind that they’re guardian angels, or what we know, and if we listen to, you probably won’t get in quite as much trouble.
Yeah, they just don’t. They just don’t tell us the lottery numbers. They have other purposes for us to be kinder people to be going in a certain direction or whatever that looks like right? Did you have any other final messages you’d like to tell the listeners about your experience?
Don’t worry about what happened yesterday. What were you worried about is what happens today, minute by minute. Just try to do better in this world.
Yeah. And unquestionable. That’s what I find so unusual to myself is that you don’t question it. It’s, it’s just the way it is. Right. That’s the feeling. Yeah. Oh, it’s just so beautiful. our listeners, I can’t believe that we had this opportunity to share this with Scott today. Thank you, Scott. Thank you. So very, very, thank you very, very much for coming on the show today. It’s it’s been an awesome interview with you Scott. I can’t explain it. I hope everyone else has understood and believed and and to have hope. I think that’s that you can you can make amends you can make things better. Right in life back. Right. Well, thank you Scott for coming on the show. I truly appreciate it.
Thank you for being here listening, prepare for the unexpected, because you don’t know what that might be what that might look like. Scott has told us an experience that is unbelievable. But truthful. And I don’t even know what words to say. It’s more than motivating. inspiring. I’m not really sure because there’s so many depths to what you say, Scott, you know, to being present in the moment. And then being looking over top of the situation as well. And then being put somewhere else to say you’re guided here. Do you want to come you’re not ready, you go sit back. That’s basically the summary of your story. And it really truly is. Unbelievable, because it’s beautiful.
You know, Because each week I interview real life stories about real life people, just like Scott, who you can’t get any better story than that, because it’s a life changing event that changed Scott and Connie’s life forever. And it’s a beautiful story for each and every one to realize that. It’s precious life is precious. And don’t give away that day that you are so lucky to have with your loved ones. I also talk about if there’s someone that you’re listening to the show right now that’s in your mind, about how much you love them, reach out and tell them today that you love them, and how much you care because you don’t know what tomorrow might bring. Stay Safe – Be Kind- Lots of Love
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